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Elderly White Male Pundits

Thursday, July 29, 1999 by Dave Winer.

Good morning DaveNet! Permalink to Good morning DaveNet!

Lots of links in this piece. Permalink to Lots of links in this piece.

It begins with an editorial written by John Dvorak in PC Magazine: Permalink to It begins with an editorial written by John Dvorak in PC Magazine:

http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/opinions/0,7802,2301976,00.html  Permalink to http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/opinions/0,7802,2301976,00.html

"When you see some guy pulling an iBook out of his backpack a few months from now, tell him his little computer looks delectable and see what he says." Permalink to

The key word here is delectable. It'll show up again later in this piece. Permalink to The key word here is delectable. It'll show up again later in this piece.

***Janelle Brown Permalink to ***Janelle Brown

Then Janelle Brown, an editor at Salon, rebutted him, intelligently and powerfully: Permalink to Then Janelle Brown, an editor at Salon, rebutted him, intelligently and powerfully:

http://www.salon.com/tech/log/1999/07/28/barbie/index.html  Permalink to http://www.salon.com/tech/log/1999/07/28/barbie/index.html

"Women use computers, women run computer companies; equating them with busty plastic dolls shows that no matter whether we've come a long way, baby -- not everyone has kept up." Permalink to

***Polly Sprenger Permalink to ***Polly Sprenger

Then this morning an editorial by Polly Sprenger on the Wired website: Permalink to Then this morning an editorial by Polly Sprenger on the Wired website:

http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/20982.html  Permalink to http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/20982.html

"'I am computer geek!' he is yelling, 'hear me roar!' Dvorak, secure in his elderly, white male punditry, understands this in a way that sandal-wearing, veggie-munching Steve Jobs doesn't." Permalink to

Ooops! Permalink to Ooops!

***Letter to the editor Permalink to ***Letter to the editor

I wrote this letter to the editor of Wired. Permalink to I wrote this letter to the editor of Wired.

I try not to take offense on matters of principle, but referring to Dvorak as an "elderly, white male" is far beneath Wired and I do find it offensive, even if it is written in rebuttal to a piece that crossed well-accepted lines of political correctness.  Permalink to I try not to take offense on matters of principle, but referring to Dvorak as an

I am not many years younger than Dvorak, and I am white and male and a pundit. What does that say about someone and their beliefs and attitudes? Do two wrongs make a right? Wired, get a life, get over yourselves, you're worse than Dvorak, at least he's willing to promote beliefs that are not so "correct." Permalink to I am not many years younger than Dvorak, and I am white and male and a pundit. What does that say about someone and their beliefs and attitudes? Do two wrongs make a right? Wired, get a life, get over yourselves, you're worse than Dvorak, at least he's willing to promote beliefs that are not so

I wrote that too quickly. Let me explain.. Permalink to I wrote that too quickly. Let me explain..

***Walkman at 20 Permalink to ***Walkman at 20

This morning I read a NY Times article on the Walkman turning twenty. It's a great piece. It turns out there are Walkmans designed for teens and for women and for athletes and one that's modeled after the iMac.  Permalink to This morning I read a NY Times article on the Walkman turning twenty. It's a great piece. It turns out there are Walkmans designed for teens and for women and for athletes and one that's modeled after the iMac.

http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/07/circuits/articles/29walk.html  Permalink to http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/07/circuits/articles/29walk.html

So what could be so terrible about designing a computer that fit the sensibilities of almost-elderly white male pundits? I actually think that makes a lot of sense. I can tell you this much, I am not going to own a computer that people call "delectable". I laughed when I read this in Dvorak's piece.  Permalink to So what could be so terrible about designing a computer that fit the sensibilities of almost-elderly white male pundits? I actually think that makes a lot of sense. I can tell you this much, I am not going to own a computer that people call

Wired may make fun of us, but I have my own self-image, and it's none of their business, any more than I could tell a middle-aged white female pundit how she should express herself thru products she chooses. Further, people marvel at the economic clout of teenagers, but what about the purchasing power of mature white males? There's money to be made in appealing to us, obviously. Permalink to Wired may make fun of us, but I have my own self-image, and it's none of their business, any more than I could tell a middle-aged white female pundit how she should express herself thru products she chooses. Further, people marvel at the economic clout of teenagers, but what about the purchasing power of mature white males? There's money to be made in appealing to us, obviously.

***What is delectable? Permalink to ***What is delectable?

BTW, when I quit Wired a few years ago, they were complaining about a section of a piece I wrote about Jean-Louis Gassee. Some thought it was sexist. "Extend your right arm. Pull your pinky to your palm. Same with the fourth finger and your thumb. Extend your index and middle fingers and pull them together. Move your arm so that these two fingers are directly under your nose. Sniff shortly three times." Permalink to BTW, when I quit Wired a few years ago, they were complaining about a section of a piece I wrote about Jean-Louis Gassee. Some thought it was sexist.

http://davenet.userland.com/1995/10/07/welcomebackjeanlouis  Permalink to http://davenet.userland.com/1995/10/07/welcomebackjeanlouis

To me, a soon-to-be-elderly white male pundit, this is what delectable is all about. ;-> Permalink to To me, a soon-to-be-elderly white male pundit, this is what delectable is all about. ;->

***Thank you Elvis! Permalink to ***Thank you Elvis!

I saw a great show on the History Channel last night. We just got it on our cable system a few weeks ago, their programming is excellent, I've seen shows on Lindbergh and the Chinese Cultural Revolution. Last night's story was about Elvis, how he opened up teen culture in the US, and how this forever freed teens from having their sexuality (openly) controlled by their parents.  Permalink to I saw a great show on the History Channel last night. We just got it on our cable system a few weeks ago, their programming is excellent, I've seen shows on Lindbergh and the Chinese Cultural Revolution. Last night's story was about Elvis, how he opened up teen culture in the US, and how this forever freed teens from having their sexuality (openly) controlled by their parents.

All those girls screaming, what were they screaming about? They were horny! That's definitely something worth screaming about. That's what Elvis changed, and thank you Elvis! The young girls might have liked dreaming about Barbie and Ken, but they also had fantasies of loving Elvis. Permalink to All those girls screaming, what were they screaming about? They were horny! That's definitely something worth screaming about. That's what Elvis changed, and thank you Elvis! The young girls might have liked dreaming about Barbie and Ken, but they also had fantasies of loving Elvis.

When Ed Sullivan, the Minister of Culture in the US in the 50s said Elvis is a nice young man, he passed the torch to the new generation, and it's never passed back. Permalink to When Ed Sullivan, the Minister of Culture in the US in the 50s said Elvis is a nice young man, he passed the torch to the new generation, and it's never passed back.

***Male style Permalink to ***Male style

So what does this have to do with Wired and Dvorak and delectable iMacs?  Permalink to So what does this have to do with Wired and Dvorak and delectable iMacs?

Just this, we mature men might want something warm, with leather perhaps, no guns please, but something rugged that fits in a carry-on bag, and fits our style. To think that today's laptops somehow are designed to appeal to male style is to underestimate male style. Permalink to Just this, we mature men might want something warm, with leather perhaps, no guns please, but something rugged that fits in a carry-on bag, and fits our style. To think that today's laptops somehow are designed to appeal to male style is to underestimate male style.

I just bought a new car, a Lexus RX300. I want something like that. Not delectable, but cool and modern, stylish and comfortable. Easy on the eyes. (The older you get the more you value comfort, it's true it's true.) Permalink to I just bought a new car, a Lexus RX300. I want something like that. Not delectable, but cool and modern, stylish and comfortable. Easy on the eyes. (The older you get the more you value comfort, it's true it's true.)

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